City Walkthrough

Starting Off

This is more of a step-by-step procedure than a hint section.

• If playing in campaign mode, consider doing the following steps, but this cannot be done if you’ve just started a new game.
  1. Load the file "lastyear".
  2. Once your city has loaded, wait for your soon-to-come promotion. If you made any last minute changes to your province before being promoted, and you think that the change might have affected the emperor’s decision to promote you this year, than make these changes now, and wait for your promotion.
  3. Once you are promoted, select your next province to govern.
  4. If you are not satisfied with the new river layout, than go back to step one.
• An appropriate site for a Defense type of city is a river running from the bottom of the map to the right, or symmetrical equivalent. A city built for Population would have a river of an irregular shape, covering the highest amount of space possible. A Mercenary city governor can have any type of river.
• I recommend pausing the game before proceeding. Begin construction by making water available to your city. I recommend building one reservoir and one fountain beside the reservoir. These essential structures should be built alongside the river of course. Beside the reservoir and fountain, build a hospital, rhetor and market in a single row, still building alongside the river. Behind the market, and beside the hospital, build a prefecture. Now, make a cane-shaped road that will reach all of these buildings. On the other side of the street, build a bath house that faces the middle of the row located on the other side of the road. Beside the bath house, build a grammaticus, theater, and two fountains on the corners of the (purple) pipe access/water square. See the Money Saving Tips at the end of this document for an explanation why you should build these (fountains).
• Build a block of housing behind the 2×2 building row (The grammaticus, theater and bath house row). Make it small enough for the walkers to access, but big enough to create good population growth. I recommend block sized four by ten squares, the longer part being alongside the 2×2 building row.
• For every 5000dn remaining, consider building a basilica. Temples carry half of that (2 500dn) and shrines carry even less (app. 1 000dn), so build those structures if you do not wish to get a robbery.
• Here’s more or less what the finished product should look like:
  
• Once February hits, the pleb requirements are going to go up fairly high, so prepare yourself by increasing pleb welfare to about 15dn per month. Expand progressively, but fairly slowly. Remember that the more housing you build without adding new land-value-increasing structures, the more your current housing will suffer. Add the occasional entertainment structure and keep up with demand for everything. Prepare yourself for riots and other problems. Once you get your treasury stabilized, proceed with developing your province.
• Some people have been complaining that even with the speed at ten, it will still take three or four minutes to go through one year. A simple way to beat this is to go under the speed menu and select accelerated time and sit back and relax. Each month will take about 15 seconds to go by, and the time will resume normal speed whenever a message appears ( i.e. an invading army, stolen Dn., end of year statement, etc.) -The Warlock

Land Values

Here you see two large palaces. The land value here is 64, the required amount to construct this type of housing. Notice that the palaces are close to a grammaticus, hospitals, a library and a market. The palaces also have their own forum, baths, shrines and water supply. When managing land values (especially higher ones), keep these thoughts in mind:

• Check out the "Caesar’s Pics" to set development goals.
• The larger housing (Villas and Palaces) only need to have all their needs satisfied on one third of the squares that they occupy. For example, a palace only needs an entertainment rating of 9 on three out of nine that it occupies to maintain an entertainment rating of 9 for the whole structure. Sometimes, you may get away with having all the needs satisfied on only one square, but this does not always work.
• Prevent the Population Dip at all costs. The dip can cost you your expensive housing and can even eliminate some of your housing.
• As you can see from the picture, the palaces have automatic coverage at all times by land-value-increasing buildings. In order to develop higher land values, you shall need this strategy. Keep the baths, forums, schools, hospitals, libraries and worship buildings close, but keep markets and prefectures at least three squares away, but not too far away (More than five or six squares at most) Walkers have pretty short lives and their effects are eliminated quickly once they pass by housing, so don’t rely entirely on them!
• Remember to have all your housing accessible by road. Speaking of road access, remember that hospitals, libraries, and buildings that produce walkers need direct road access at all times to function effectively.
• Make sure to prevent disasters in the area, especially riots because they reduce land values drastically by creating rubble. Even riot presence in the vicinity could lower land values. See the Dealing with Problems section for advice on dealing with these disasters, and how to prevent them.
• Romans hate open spaces. Strongly avoid building housing blocks near empty land. This is one of the major causes of the Population Dip.
• Land values for housing and land values for non-housing (Multiple stature) buildings are different. These non-housing type buildings are affected by much fewer limiting factors than normal housing, and the limiting factors that do act upon them only affect their land value slightly. For example, you can easily bring a basilica up to a high stature (Let’s say with a land value rating of 53), although it has no external security and is in the proximity of a business, just by placing some plazas around it.
• Use the query tool often to check what residence wants if they are shrinking or not growing.
• Never leave rubble lying around and if you can afford it build roads out of plazas and build grammaticus because they are cheap and really please people.

Managing Your Industries

Your industries can be an important source of income for Mercenary city governors. They also make good use of provincial industry.

• You will probably begin to build industries later in your city development. If you have a lot of expensive housing, consider building the industries in areas already limited in growth, or in areas that have many non-housing type buildings.
• Make sure that a market is beside each of your industries. This will eliminate any problems caused by the short-term effects of walkers.
• The effects of high Industry Taxes are evident when all of your industries have production reductions at the same time. The diminished production caused by taxes is explained with the "insufficient city-wide demand" comment. Check out the Treasurer section in the Forum page for information on managing your taxes.
• Placing housing around your industries in the effort to provide decent workforce is a seemingly logical, yet risky idea. Housing placed both near an industry and on the edge of city limits will cause riots in the area for sure. Unrest, strangely enough, will not rise in such housing so rioting generally cannot be predicted. Avoidance is quite easy:
  1. Build industries in the inner-city area, but beware of the associated wide-spread limiting factors.
  2. Surround your workers’ housing with another type of building. Temples usually work effectively. This is my recommendation.
  3. A road that surrounds your industrial community will reduce the risk of a riot slightly.
  4. Consider building your workforce housing right beside a river.
• If you wonder why you cannot make raw materials available from your province, see the Trade and Industry section on the province level page for information.

Protecting Your City

Internal Security is good at any time. It will minimize the chance that riots will occur, and stop riots if by any chance they do occur. The presence of vigils will also raise land values. Vigils also take care of invaders if they reach your city, like soldiers. Please keep in mind that vigils are quite "shy" though, so they let invaders come to them instead of running after invaders like soldiers do.

External Security is only necessary if you are building in City-Only mode, or if you are a governor that builds for Defense. Installing external security is also a good way to spend excessive money if applicable.

• If you are building a wall to protect your city from invasion rather than to simply allow land values to go above 42, than do not build the wall on the edge of the map. If you do build a wall at the edge of the map, than invaders will not be hindered by its presence.
• Barracks are used to stop an attack once an invader is inside the city. Towers, on the other hand, will help stop an invasion before it reaches the city. Try to build more towers than barracks: It’s cheaper and more effective.
• One option is to wall off your entire map along the outside as an expensive but instant security system.

Dealing with Problems – Unrest and Riots

Rioting will probably be the most common problem that you’ll experience. The usual cause for rioting is unrest, but it’s also partially caused by the Population Dip (Described later in this document).
Unrest is caused by factors such as conscription and limiting factors, but is amplified by taxes. To make things easier to understand, think of this: You’re listening to music that has multiple instruments playing at the same time, each playing at a different volume level. These instruments are like different levels of unrest. If you turn up the volume, every one of the instruments will play louder. The volume is like tax. If you increase taxes, every housing unit that already has unrest will now have more unrest, and maybe some of the housing that did not have unrest before will now have unrest. Higher difficulty levels make unrest more likely.

If you’re unfamiliar with the preventative measures for high unrest and riots, here are a few:

• Avoid exposing your housing to the major limiting factors such as lack of baths, forum access or full water supply.
• Keep a low population tax, and balance it out with an increase in the industrial tax.
• Increase the number of luxuries (temples, plazas and entertainment). One idea is to replace your roads with plazas. Another idea is to use entertainment and worship buildings to fill in the squares where limiting factors reside, instead of putting housing in those areas.
• I have found that if an area of houses or a house, turn red (threat of riot), and you cannot figure out the immediate cause, just destroy the house (houses) and immediately place new houses in the same spot. This usually takes care of the problem for the time being, gives you more time to make adjustments and is cheaper than a riot. -Anonymous

Sometimes, no matter how many precautions you take, a riot will occur. If a riot does break out, it usually begins in large housing blocks, near the edges of your city limits or "filler" housing (Housing placed among many non-housing type buildings to fill in empty space.) Here are some strategies when dealing with riots:

• Build a tower in front of the rioter. This will hinder the rioter’s progress considerably. Sometimes the tower might even produce a soldier, who will eliminate the rioter immediately. Otherwise, the tower will slow the progress of the rioter long enough for vigiles to be able to intercept them.
• If there’s only one vigile in the area trying to intercept a riot, but he cannot because a building is in his way, than you may consider cutting him a path through some housing in order to facilitate access. If larger buildings must be destroyed in order for the vigile to access the rioter, or if you simply don’t feel like wrecking things, than try to rotate the map a couple of times and see if the vigile goes around his obstacles to intercept the rioter. In most cases though, the vigile will automatically circle the obstacles and take care of the rioter.

Population Dip

The population dip is an undocumented problem that can affect your city at earlier stages of development. The basic definition of population dip is "Invisible Unrest". A population dip does not create riots or any other type of physically apparent problems, but its effects can seriously harm your city.
The population dip reduces land values in your city considerably, often for no evident reason. Sometimes, you may be thrown into debt because of it ; Other times, you might lose some of your (previously thriving) housing blocks. Here’s some causes of the population dip, and associated solutions: Most of the causes listed below have a general solution: Progressive expansion. As long as you build or improve your city continually, you can usually avoid the population dip.

Cause: Open Spaces; Housing placed near city limits is likely to suffer from population dips.

Solution: Surround your city with a wall, road, or other type of inexpensive structure. Also try to keep your housing on the inside of your city, while other buildings stay on the outside. This method could use up more money though, since less housing is affected by a single beneficial structure.

Cause: Limiting Factors/Unrest; Lack of entertainment, bath house coverage, etc.

Solution: See the Riots/Unrest section above. The solutions are practically the same.

Cause: Lack of Funds; Prevents you from fixing problems, expanding, and generally making life easier for your people. This makes your residents move out!

Solution: Cheat if you have to. Another solution is to resist the urge to build too much. Set a minimum amount of money to have at all times. My recommended amount is 5000dn or more.

Cause: Unruly Population; Some provinces simply have a bad population from the start.

Solution: Avoid these provinces if possible; let ‘ol Pompous have them. The province description will tell you if the province’s populace behaves bad. If you decide to take these provinces on, than be very careful. There’s no easy solution for this one.

Cause: Wandering Walkers; If people don’t see walkers in their neighborhood often, they will move out.

Solution: Split up your city into smaller communities by removing road pieces in some places. Read the third tip in Money Saving Tips for details. You may also try setting up a single possible path for walkers by making a single long road for them to follow.

Money Saving Tips

When it comes to providing water for your citizens, than keep in mind that only bath houses and fountains must be placed inside the underground piping range. Housing only needs water from a fountain to receive a normal water supply: it does not need pipe access. Please remember that water that comes directly from a river or well will only create a primitive water supply; only fountains do the job right. An anon person adds: If you place a fountain next to a reservoir and the fountain won’t fill with water, try placing the fountain directly on top of the little green plants (bushes), in the grassy area of your city. This should fix your problem.

Also concerning water: you can save yourself some time, money and space by allowing multiple aqueducts to feed off a single reservoir. This is great if you don’t want a maze of aqueducts running through your city, as you may end up doing when it will come to providing water for areas that are distant from the river. Even if three reservoirs draw water from a single initial reservoir that is beside a river, all three will get a full water supply.

A nice thing I found out in CII: When I first began playing, I thought all of the sections of one’s city had to be physically interconnected by roads – after all, that’s the case in real cities. This means that your "walkers are liable to wander aimlessly, thus decreasing their range of effectively. In the game, though, you can create numerous enclaves with their own short road system and facilities … and the shorter your roads, the easier it is to get good market, forum, prefecture coverage, etc. Pretty handy.
For instance, Are you tired of that annoying Robbery message because you forgot how many temples you had? Then, you have to scan your city to find space near a forum to plunk down another temple. Well, now, I create a separate area for just temples, hospitals and libraries. It can be anywhere… All it needs is road connection to a forum! –Glen Homan

Glossary

Defense City: A city built for defense is a city where one’s primary goal is to keep invaders out. This kind of city is appropriate if:

1. You are building in city-only mode, and are experiencing many attacks, or want to prepare for attacks if they do occur.
2. You find no need for a cohort. Most of the attacks that you do experience are minor and do not affect other structures/cities in your province, therefore you can easily repel an invasion (in the city view).
3. Your city is placed so that your troops will not be able to intercept the enemy in time if an attack does occur. Usually this is necessary if your city is very near a "To: Someplace" sign.
4. You want to ensure the maximum level of security possible, just in case. Usually you want to do this if the province description mentions that there are many raids in the area, and your troops are not ready to fight yet.

A defense city should have a river that runs across the corner of the city map. This is to minimize the chance that invaders will enter your city limits at a place where structures are built. If structures were placed alongside a river that ran straight across the map, invaders would have a better chance of reaching a populated area, no matter from what side they attack. A city placed in the corner of the map would allow your soldiers and vigiles to respond to an attack without having to run through a maze of roads in order to intercept, and the attackers rarely actually get to the populated area because of the additional distance to travel (If they begin at a corner or side opposite to the city).

A defense city should have at least one barracks unit, and as many prefectures as possible. The areas that are close to the edge of the map should have a wall protecting them.

Population City: A city built for population is one that has logically positioned buildings and roads for maximized land value, as well as a happy population and decent economy. The general point of building a city like this is to feel dedicated to your people rather than to anything else. This kind of city is appropriate if:

1. You are planning to manage a long term city-only game.
2. You want to work mainly on improving your culture and prosperity ratings.
3. You want to see the palaces "In real life."
4. You are trying to get the highest population you can

This type of city should have a long and swerving river that takes up the highest amount of space possible. This is to make it easier to provide water to the outer limits of your city (later in the game).

Population cities have plenty of land value raising buildings, relatively low taxes and much housing. An industry here and there will also contribute to the growth of this type of city.

Mercenary’s City: A city built by a mercenary city governor is one that has relatively high taxes and many industries. The general point to built a city like this is to make as much money as possible. This kind of city is appropriate if:

1. You want to jump from province to province quickly, having a good personal savings account to back you up along the way. A large surplus of money could allow you to build (freely and quickly) what is necessary in order to advance to the next province.
2. You want to experiment with the prosperity rating, or want to see how far up you can push taxes; how many industries you can build before your people go crazy.
3. You find that it’s easier to get your more money from industry and taxes, not luxury homes.

Any type of river is appropriate for a city like this. Preferably, though, a river similar to that used in "Population" cities is good for future city expansion possibilities.

The primary source of income for a Mercenary’s city is industry. In order to have a properly functioning "Municipal Industry Base", your province must be well developed first. Most of the housing in this type of city can be classified as "worker’s housing", housing that has low stature and is used basically to support the production of industries. Tax revenue, as mentioned above, is also an important source of income ; primarily industry taxes, of course. Do not increase your population tax too much, for a Mercenary’s city is probably a city with plenty of unrest.

19 Comments »

1. Is there any way to import a city (city only mode) to a province?

   Comment by Louise — March 3, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

2. How to import a Caesar II city made in city mode to a province save game? That is a good question. I have wondered about that too, but I don’t know if it can be done.

   Comment by Administrator — March 3, 2008 @ 4:32 pm

3. how do i get external security???

   Comment by patrick — April 28, 2008 @ 8:16 am

4. Found this game recently and started to play it again. Decided to build a city for population. Just curious as to how high anyone has gotten their population to go so far.

   Comment by Kevin — August 24, 2008 @ 12:49 pm

5. The largest population I achieved was a little over 30,000.

   Comment by tk — August 27, 2008 @ 7:39 pm

6. You can get 60000 population in palaces in your city.
   It’is really to build 3-5 palaces without savings on normal difficulty level.
   And you can do it early than peace rating grow to aim.
   Taxes may be high 10-15% (if your houses ate luxury) and 25% if only palaces.

   You will have problem to spend money

   Comment by WIldKOT — September 10, 2008 @ 10:33 am

7. My TOP record, is 100,000 people. It took me a long time to get everything balanced, but it looks great now that I’ve completed it.

   http://www.caesar2.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/caesar2-one-hundred-thousand-city-population.jpg

   to Patrick: you get external security by surrounding your city with a wall. Took me forever to figure that out when I first started.

   Comment by SimpsonsFanatic — September 14, 2008 @ 1:12 pm

8. I just reinstalled the game, does anyone happen to have a saved game where you are Caesar already? I want to start a new city without him hassling me… preferably in Province mode. My email is SimpsonsFanatic04@hotmail.com if anyone would be able to send me the saved game. Thanks!

   Comment by SimpsonsFanatic — September 14, 2008 @ 1:17 pm

9. Never mind, reinstalled it and found old saved files. Just beat my record by 7,000 with a new design!

   http://www.caesar2.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/caesar2-one-hundred-seven-thousand-city-population.jpg

   Comment by SimpsonsFanatic — September 17, 2008 @ 9:34 pm

10. Guide to making the “Perfect” Population city in Caesar 2.

    Let me start by saying that this type of city is one in which you cram as many palaces as possible into this 80×80 map— literally every square inch of real estate is used and is useful (so don’t fill in blank spaces with shrines).

    Fundamentals:
    A few things to know before you build your perfect city.

    Type of river: The river should take up as little space as possible, and an ideal river would be an exact right angle… but since it never spawns like that, a river that goes up and to the right will do. DO NOT use a river that goes from one end to the other.

    Building range:
    I’ll give the number of squares that extends from each building, what I call the base range. I’ll only give the ones that are useful, ie. Regular buildings like Arenas or Theatres are USELESS because the upgraded versions take the same space with more influence. Same with a Circus Maximus because it takes up a lot of space, and space is essential.

    Market: 3
    Aventine: 3 (Do not use the Palantine forum because it takes up too much space)
    Janiculan: 4 (important for later)
    Baths: 6, 7, 8, 9 (as it increases in stature, massive range, use this to your advantage)
    Circus: Depends how you position it, vertically or horizontally
    Coliseum and Odeum: Build the entertainment close together so their base ranges overlap.
    Rhetor: 8
    Shrines: 3 (Temples and Basilicas are useless. Why? You guessed it, real estate. Plus, a row of shrines improves land value better than a row of Basilicas.
    Fountain: 6
    Praefecture: 3
    Plazas: Affect land value of buildings directly adjacent (one square away).

    Walkers:
    VERY IMPORTANT: ALWAYS only have ONE path for a walker to move. Even having one fork in your road system can have devastating effects if you’re trying to maximize your population, especially with the kind of setup I am about to explain.

    Building style:
    I notice a lot of builders tend to build houses then surround it with roads. But when you build roads on the perimeter you end up surrounding those houses with support structures like markets and entertainment, which is a very inefficient use of space because a building’s range extends in all directions, and its influence is only being put to use on one side. This is why I build my houses in a large complex and have all support structures on the INSIDE.

    Calculate your space:
    A map has 80×80 spaces. Surrounding a city with a wall gives you 78×78 spaces. My complexes are built so that two can fit into the width of the map. They are 36×16 spaces each. If you want to maximize, make sure you calculate how much space your buildings will take beforehand. Planning will really help in the long-run.

    Tricks that will help maximize your space usage:
    Remember base range is very important. As I mentioned above, a Janiculan’s range is 4, which is very useful when you are low on space.

    Allow me to explain this significance… because a Janiculan’s range is 4, it can cover TWO hospitals placed next to each other. 3 spaces cover one hospital, and that last space covers the second one. You don’t need walkers to do anything. At this point the base range covers those hospitals already. You don’t need the forum right next to a building and you don’t need to physically connect a road next to a forum. As long as a road is next to a hospital, and both are within range of a forum, it will be functional. Notice the screenshots I posted where my walls have roads built into them: the roads do not touch the forums physically, but both the hospital and road is within the range of the forum. You can do this with walls and aqueducts if you don’t have the real estate to build road systems. With regard to hospitals and libraries, I suggest using as few roads as possible.

    RANGE IS IMPORTANT, ALWAYS KEEP IT IN MIND. I exploit this to the max in my complexes as some palaces only have 1 of 9 squares with all requirements. This is enough as long as you are able to maintain the value in that one square (which is why base range and walkers walking only in one path is so important).

    Result: If you build a complex such as the ones above, 36×16, the exterior palaces support a population of 20,000. I added the palaces on the inside while tweaking my setup. Building just one complex will support you financially the rest of the way… in fact, once you’re done you won’t be able to charge 25% tax because the amount of denarii you rake in causes a glitch and you lose money overall. I have my tax set at 16%, any higher causes the glitch, but I still get about 250,000 denarii a year. And make sure you’re Caesar, or the emperor will tax the hell out of you.

    Hope you enjoyed this little tidbit of info, just wanted to add to this wonderful walkthrough.

    By the way, here’s my new map at 113,000 population. This is the most I can get by conserving every piece of space possible and using the tricks I mentioned above. Best of luck to all!

    http://www.caesar2.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/caesar2-one-hundred-thirteen-thousand-city-population.jpg

    Comment by SimpsonsFanatic — September 20, 2008 @ 11:06 pm

11. SimpsonsFanatic: Wow, that is a very impressive city! Thank you for sharing your techniques. If you would email me your save-game I would like to add it to the city download area.

    Comment by Administrator — September 21, 2008 @ 12:34 am

12. Typo from the above post, meant to say 15,000 per complex.

    As a side note to keep in mind, having complete hospital coverage is necessary, but complete library coverage is not. You only require 80% coverage to get 62 land value, and that will freeze your large palaces in place.

    With 80% coverage, you will usually stop at the Small Palace level… BUT, you can do this with your existing Large Palaces: destroy the reservoir water supply to the Large Palaces in another complex, wait one month for them to change back to small palaces, and you’ve effectively dropped your population by nearly half. This means you’ll have complete library coverage, and 64 value, for one turn. Replace the reservoir you destroyed, and all the Small Palaces get upgraded.

    Glad you liked the city Admin, I’ll upload all the different templates I used leading up to this design so you can see the progress I made along the way. Lots of planning was involved, and 113,000.sav is only the finished product.

    Template.sav is the kind of river you want to get.
    Copy of lastyear.sav is the initial design I went with. In fact, the U-shaped design is something you can use to get your initial funds.
    The tester.save maps are the new designs for my initial complex.
    67000+.sav is when I first tried to implement that design.
    100,000stable.sav is what I first thought was the maximum population until I discovered that base range trick
    106500.sav and on uses a different river from 100,000. From here to 113,000.sav I keep changing the internal design to fit in more buildings and alter the hospital placements at the bottom.

    http://www.caesar2.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/caesar-ii-113000-huge-city-population-savegame-maps-sav.zip

    Hope this gives everyone more building ideas!

    Comment by SimpsonsFanatic — September 21, 2008 @ 11:12 am

13. Here’s a more concise update for the building ranges:

    Coliseum: 7×7
    Circus: 6×6
    Odeum: 7×7
    Circus Maximus (avoid using): 8×8
    Theater (avoid using): 5×5
    Arena (avoid using): 5×5

    Rhetor: 8×8
    Grammaticus: 6×6

    Baths: 5×5, 6×6, 7×7, 8×8

    Market: 3×3

    Praefecture: 3×3
    Barracks (avoid using): 3×3

    Aventine: 3×3
    Janiculan: 4×4
    Palentine (avoid using): 5×5

    I managed to fit in another 2,000 into my city. This, I think, is my absolute limit, I can’t fit anymore hospitals inside my complexes even if I tried. Here’s the map:

    http://www.caesar2.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/caesar2-one-hundred-fifteen-thousand-city-population.jpg (Composite Screenshot)

    http://www.caesar2.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/caesar-ii-115000-huge-city-population-savegame-maps-sav.sav (.sav file)

    This’ll be my last post here, unless there are questions. I’ve had my fill of Caesar!

    Comment by SimpsonsFanatic — October 5, 2008 @ 10:03 pm

14. Crazy. You have managed to cram an impressive amount of population onto this map.

    Comment by Administrator — October 6, 2008 @ 8:24 am

15. Please tell me how to get shots of maps in CaesarII, whether in saves or the game itself.
    I don’t use DOSBOX, I simply run the game from windows xp

    Comment by Cactus — October 26, 2008 @ 4:52 pm

16. Hi Cactus, those shots of maps are composites. I took a screenshot of a part of the map with the “prntscrn” key, and then pasted the pieces together in Windows Paint.

    As a side note, I discovered that you don’t have to have a forum overlap with a hospital per say, but you only need a road that is covered by forum, and is adjacent to that hospital. So the road can be in the read, but the 9 hospital squares can be black. Managed to get up to 117,000 by doing that.

    Comment by SimpsonsFanatic — October 28, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

17. Wow
    117k of people
    I fell off my chair
    Incredible
    I always had to use money cheats to survive in this game and waited no longer than first note of promotion to get the hell out of the province I used to govern
    You guys are real lunatics when it comes to C2
    GZ!!!

    Comment by Wizard2579 — February 15, 2009 @ 6:01 am

18. Thanks to all who posted strat & guides. I remember playing this game allot when I was like 10 or 11 but could never beat it but now I’m owning all over the place (well relatively ofc)

    Also I think anyone who can fit more than 100k people on one map should establish a town IRL :p

    Comment by Ballza — June 25, 2009 @ 4:49 pm

19. Is it possible to run Caesar 2 in Windows Vista or is XP the limit?

    Comment by Dan — August 17, 2009 @ 10:45 am

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